#very supernaturalcore...

[soclearlytosee]

Escape from [New York/L.A./Camazotz]

I think the "Camazotz" in s05e06 "Escape from Camazotz" preoccupied us all enough that we haven't really reckoned with in addition to being a reference to A Wrinkle in Time, that episode title is probably also invoking Escape from New York/Escape from L.A.

John Carpenter is obviously already extremely part of the Stranger Things DNA, and this movie, while existing in a much more heightened reality than ST, is certainly a Duffers source text.

We have a nail bat.

An apocalyptic station wagon.

Literally utilizing a deep cut from the movie's score in the show.

So I really don't see a world where they're not paying homage to at least the first movie with "Escape from Camazotz."

but if there is more to glean from this for what's going on in Stranger Things s5e06, what would it be?

Escape from New York is a rescue mission (from a walled-in prison), in response to a hostage situation.

The rescue mission has a very explicit time limit.

According to those who are making the deal to our protagonist, Snake Plissken (who is a definite Steve hair antecedent imo): “Once you’re inside, you’re on your own” (but Snake does communicate with them via radio, and is being tracked)

The MacGuffin they're chasing turns out to be a tape with classified information about nuclear fusion, which is intended to be part some kind of entreaty (for peace?) by the U.S. at the "Hartford Summit". There's a switcheroo and the end of the movie where Snake, disillusioned by how those in power are treating the people on the ground, replaces the nuclear fusion tape with a "Bandstand Boogie" recording.

Escape from L.A. has a lot of culture war stuff going on, the president is a fundamentalist theocrat. L.A. is now an island bc of an apocalyptic earthquake and functions as the "deportation center for anyone found undesirable or unfit to live in the new, moral America"

In L.A., the president's daughter is manipulated via a political insurgent sending her "visions" through some kind of in-universe virtual reality technology to steal a key piece of technology.

The above technology will fry all electronic devices via an electromagnetic pulse, either in a targeted area or worldwide.

L.A. has the countdown to a specific deadline thing going on but instead of the "micro-explosives" he's injected with in the first movie, Snake is infected with an illness that they tell him will kill him if he doesn't get the cure by the allotted time. he gets more ill (coughing, feverish) throughout the course of the film.

both movies end with a live TV broadcast by the president. sequel also involves some hologram stuff

L.A. also has...a submarine sequence, and also surfing and hang gliding??? it is a delirious movie. but yeah re: st5, hey, you never know

(I do think the rescue mission thing is the most likely meaning)

I mean yes, I'm thinking about the Meat Wall

[youre-only-gay-once]

The most interesting part of On the Road was when the car got called slurs

[milfcodeddean]

Rinsing my mouth with salt water like “wow if I made this with holy water it would be interrogating-a-demon-core”

[milfcodeddean]

Sam compares Dean working with Crowley to himself with Ruby which is very supernaturalcore

Drowley really started in s5 like Crowley has already implied that Dean is his favorite in 5x20